Who Killed These Girls? or Better Yet, Who Killed This Attorney? The Better Question is, How the Fuck Did She Get Here? The Answers Might Surprise You!
The state of Mormon, NSA, with 30,000 cyber spies, trying to steal this blog, just came on with their lame ass, pink, message, that says, your attempt to "publish" or "print" was dismissed or unsuccessful . . . ah, newsflash, dip shits, I haven't tried to publish or print! That would be the Shelley, Primrose Montessori Preschool, of the baby ass bitches, protected by the baby ass, boyz clubs, of cops, Mo's, and GOP, who have claimed, from the first two weeks, I started writing this blog, that, it was the lovable losers, who really wrote this blog, and all the great stuff, rather than this nasty, Hillary-like, attorney, JoAnn, who has the background, knowledge, training, experience, and brilliance to turn out day after day of good stuff, that these groped and grabbed, CIA Make a Wish Bitch List, preferred for their reliance on men, and same going the other way . . . pink slips, just popped up again, they are getting frantic, that, they are going to be exposed or have some explaining to do, Lucy! LOL! Hillary is beating Trump, her way, and I am beating, these men, who are just like him, my way too! It is called, brains, skill, bright ideas, revelatory, facts, statistics, critical analysis, examples, and science, that the cops refuse to use, because, the truth of who, is the mother of the Super Star Nursery, IS ALSO ME! No spanking this ambitious female nasty attorney, sending me back to the wood shed to be beaten, abused, cheated on, groped and grabbed in the pussy! LOL! I LOVE THIS, can I tell, you HOW MANY WAYS, I LOVE THIS, trouncing the men, making them look the shallow, stupid, juvenile, inane, insane, fools that they are, to think that for one second, they were smart enough to pull this shit off? Even outgunned and outmanned, this nasty bitch is smarter, than they are, all put together . . . patience is a virtue! Quality takes time! I have built my case, now investigators, detectives, prosecutors, and judges, need to do theirs! NASTY OR NOT, THIS WOMAN WANTS, JUSTICE, IT IS LONG, LONG, LONG, OVER DUE! LIKE THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS IN THIS CASE!
SORRY, I GOT, BRAIN SWIPED, BY THE LITTLE "PINK" DECOY, TRYING TO MAKE ME ALLOW, ACCESS TO MY BLOG, SO THE FUCKERS CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR TRAINING, COPS, THEIR PRIDE, JOY, SUPPORTERS, AND ADMIRERS, WHEN IN REALITY, IT WAS THE NASTY BITCH, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHO TRAINED A NATION OF COPS AND PROSECUTORS 20 YEARS AGO . . . SAME CHICK, SAME BLOGGER, SAME NASTY WOMAN, SUCH A NASTY WOMAN!
COLD CASE FILES--IN THE MATTER OF "WHO KILLED THESE GIRLS" IS STILL A MYSTERY, DUE TO THE MIRACLE OF SCIENCE AND DNA!
So, briefly the facts of the case, because, those interested, or intellectually curious, will, get on YouTube and check this case out, that makes so many good, comments, and gives examples of police interrogation tactics, forced or coerced confessions, volunteer confusions, to confuse the cops, and, later, after new investigators, thought they had their men, the killers, only to have the convictions, reversed and the men, dismissed from prison, and that is what happens when you short circuit, those pesky, constitutional rights, in the Bill of Rights, that, create such a headache, for cops and prosecutors, in solving a gnarly case, with tons of pressure, but, that, can't be solved, with a mere confession, unless there is evidence that corroborates the confession, with facts, tests, and evidence, or the confessions, become nothing much more than, a mere formality, that was not followed up on, that can be good and bad, depending on the supporting evidence, making fools of cops and prosecutors and a backlog and drain on the system! This is great timing, because, in this election, President Clinton, is already starting the political and power wheels turning, for an overhaul and reforms in the criminal justice system, and following the old, true, tried and tested, protections and demands of the United States Constitution, can the system be fixed . . . PATRIOT ACT RATS BE DAMNED! And that includes members of Congress, who sell this document, down the tubes, and then claim they are constitutional law heroes? HOW?
ROBBERY, EXECUTION OF FOUR GIRLS, ONE RAPED, ARSON, OF THE YOGURT SHOP
There were two sisters, working at the store at the time, and it appears that several friends, stopped by the shop, to either get a treat, or to say hi to friends . . . but, they were all killed. There were two lead investigators or detectives on the case, Jones and Huckabee, who interviewed, at least 300 plus suspects, with many, many, men, coming in to confess, pump their chests, and say they killed the four girls, to get notoriety and fame, but were promptly released, with no evidence, or spurious claims and facts that didn't match the crime or circumstances of the case. However, there were four teens, that were all brought in and questioned, at the time of the original, interviews by the detectives, but, even though, one of the suspects, was found at the mall with a gun, there was nothing else that would say, he had been involved in the crimes. Now, at the time, I am sure ballistics, science and other investigative tools were not as readily available as they later became, but, the four suspects that, everyone thought committed the crimes, were, released by the two lead detectives in the case, really being either ahead of their time, ethical, constitutional, and they, released, the four, prime suspects, to the dismay and chagrin of the victims' families, and the community who were convinced that these four boys, at the time, killed these girls, execution style, then tried to cover and destroy the evidence by setting the place on fire. The four girls were found, nude, stacked on top of each other, three had been shot in the head, once, and one, had two bullets in her head. Most of the evidence, had been destroyed by either the fire or the water from the sprinkling system.
With no, solid evidence and suspects the case went cold. I think the case would be, like 20 years ago, given the fact that, the case was closed, then, there were new detectives, who opened the cold case, and started, looking at the list of suspects, and pulled, in the same four teens, and questioned them again, and in the interviews, several of the boys, actually, confessed to the murders, but after, hours and hours, of denying the killing and participation, but, later, some cracking under the pressure of cops, being in their faces for intense, backed in the corner, interrogations, accusing them, of doing it, and badgering the boys, until, finally, they gave them what they wanted, and what they expected to be the facts. Based on the confessions the boys were convicted, with two, dragging two other boys in on the crimes, but who were released, because none of the evidence in the case, old or new, supported their convictions, but based on the confessions, two boys were held, arrested, and tried, on the case, with two of them, being convicted by the jury. But, through good defense attorney work, and constitutional protections, the boys were granted new trials for having their rights violated during interviews with the cops. The original detectives, now, retired, and 10 years after the boys, had been released, were deemed to have treated the case, poorly, and seen as not doing their job right, when they released the boys for lack of evidence, but now, with the same guys, being, tried. But, a judge in the case, overturned the convictions, and were granted new trials.
ONE FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGISTS EXPERT OPINION, OF THE USE OF THE CONFESSIONS OF THE BOYS IN THIS CASE . . . OR THE PROBLEM WITH CASES, THAT PROCEED FORWARD BASED ON THE CONFESSIONS ALONE!
- the person feels trapped, not free to go, which is one of the factors, and elements of an arrest, and questioning, is the suspect, is NOT free to go . . .
- even without any guilt whatsoever, a person, just given the intense pressure by the cops, may confess to a crime they didn't admit, and that is hard to swallow, for someone, who had not been in that, closed, close quartered, environment, with one or two cops, screaming at you, telling you they that you committed this crime, and under the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision, allowing cops to lie, to defendants, in the furtherance of solving a crime, they may actually, bull shit the suspect, due to made up facts, believe, that, there is no point in arguing, because, it looks like cops have all the evidence against them, when they didn't do it, but, under the gun, they just admit guilt
- when, in these intense situations, people make very myopic and sometime, tragic, decisions, just so they can stop the pain of the current position they find themselves in, thinking that, the immediate relief is worth the confession
- in this case, the confession, did not in any way, shape or form, match or meet the report, done by the arson report, on the fire, that was set
- but, once the boys, confessed, now the arson report, then, molded to the confession, and was later used as evidence against the defendants!
- evidence still needs to match the confession, or the confession, is just one of the tools, in the prosecutors tool bag, that can be used to help in the conviction, but it better, not be ALL, the prosecutor has, even circumstantial evidence, can sure up a confession, but, standing alone it is just not enough! In fact, in Britain, when dealing with juveniles, cops and prosecutors, have made it MANDATORY, that there is sufficient corroborating evidence, to support the confession or the confession is considered worthless! The first detective, that was trashed, said, that, there was nothing to support the confessions, and many people had confessed to the crimes, even bragged about them, but, the evidence to meet the standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, could NOT be met! Ten years, and several, hearings, trials, challenges later, the prosecutor and investigators on the cold case, even though, they maintained that these boys were the killers, had to, for lack of evidence, to support the confessions, actually had to drop the cases, all together, because, new DNA evidence, turned out of be, none of the boys, DNA, nor did they have a 5th person ever mentioned in the robbery, murders and arson, so the prosecutor, had to dismiss the charges and cases all together, being a waste of time, energy, effort and resources! Going full circle back to the original detectives, saving face for them, as doing the right thing, within our system, of the standard of proof necessary to convict a person of the crime, especially of murder! One of the defendants was sitting on death row! But, the Brits, have taken a far, nicer approach to interrogations, they give juveniles, breaks, bring them food and water, give bathroom breaks, and stopped screaming at them, backing them into a corner, because in the long run, if they don't have the evidence to support the charges, and connect the defendant or the accused to the crime, then, the confession is not worth much anyway!
I thought, this case brought out, not only the ideas of concern for dealing with cases, resting on only confessions, but it shows the complexity of the interrogations alone, and the intense pressure, in our face confrontations, of just who the cops think committed the crime, not who actually did commit the crime, there are many crimes that, people are charged with committing, and they are merely, in the wrong place at the wrong time and there is ALWAYS the possibility of being framed for a crime, committed by someone else, putting this person, even planting the evidence that would make another person, likely to be charged in a crime! Just some thoughts, and reasons, for reform, for caution and return to those constitutional principles and concepts that have been around for 240 years and for the most part have served citizens, suspects, defendants and convicts well, and with the new science and forensics, more and more, even the least likely suspects have been found and the most suspected cleared . . . the great thing about DNA evidence, is that it can free or convict you! So, it is a critical component to solving cold cases, that have lingered on the books forever! PROOF, PROOF, PROOF, you can accuse anyone of anything, they can even confess to the crime, but, if you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, with supporting evidence, the confession is nothing more than getting out of a painful, intimidating situation, much like they are finding with torture and waterboarding with alleged terrorists . . . they will say anything, leading investigators down the wrong trail, that can fuck an investigation, and prolong bringing the real criminals to justice . . . no one wants to see the killer or killers of these four girls, go free, or not answer for their crimes! But, along those same lines, no one wants an innocent person, held responsible for another person's crimes, especially, one so serious and hideous as this one was, with four young, good girls murdered, raped and burned!
COOL NEW JUSTICE REFORMS TAKING PLACE IN THE AREA OF BAIL AND FINES, JAILING THE POOR UNTIL TRIAL, SEEING THIS AS VIOLATION OF THE "EQUAL PROTECTION" CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT . . . IF WE ARE GOING TO BE TRUE TO, THE PRESUMPTION OF "INNOCENT, UNTIL, PROVEN GUILTY" THEN, JUST BECAUSE, SOMEONE HAS MONEY AND CAN MEET BAIL, BUT THE OTHER CAN'T, SHOULD AN ALLEGEDLY, INNOCENT, MAN OR WOMAN BE HELD? SOME STATES, COURTS, ATTORNEYS, ARE SAYING THIS IS "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" AND CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEYS, ACROSS THE NATION ARE TAKING UP THE CAUSES OF THE POOR . . . AND FIGHTING FOR THEM! KISSES, LOVES, HUGS!
THIS IS A SITUATION THAT IS HAPPENING IN MISSOULA, HOPEFULLY STOPPED, THAT OF WARNING AND CITING THE HOMELESS FOR VAGRANCY, GIVING THEM TICKETS FOR $75 AND THEN PUTTING OUT BENCH WARRANTS WHEN THE FINES ARE NOT PAID! I HAVE POINTED OUT THAT THE MONTANA STATE LEGISLATURE, FORBIDS FINING AND FEES FOR VAGRANCY, BUT, COPS CAN GET THEM FOR "DISORDERLY CONDUCT" BUT ONLY IF THEY FALL INTO THE CATEGORIES, 5 OF THEM, THAT CONSTITUTES WHAT THE LAW MAKERS IN THE STATE, SAY, IS DISTURBING THE PEACE OF THE COMMUNITY!
WELL ORDERED SOCIETIES, ARE BASED ON WELL ORDERED AND FOLLOWED, LAWS! WE CANNOT AFFORD TO PLAY THE "GOSSIP" GAME IN OUR COURTS, PASSING ONE MISCONCEPTION ON FROM ONE GENERATION OF ERRANT COPS OR PROSECUTORS ON TO THE NEXT, WITHOUT A FOUNDATION, IN THE CONSTITUTION AND LAW, STATUTES AND ORDINANCES, THAT ARE PROPERLY DECIDED, THAT DON'T VIOLATE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS, OR THOSE BENCH MARK, PROVISIONS OF "DUE PROCESS" AND "EQUAL PROTECTION" KEEP FIGHTING, KEEP CHALLENGING AND LET'S DO THIS RIGHT . . . PRIVILEGE FOR NONE, JUSTICE FOR ALL! IT CAN BE A REALITY! WE CAN DO THIS STATES, LEGISLATURES, COURTS, AND THANK GOD FOR CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEYS! YOU BLESS A NATION, AND KEEP US FREE! I LOVE YOU GUYS!
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